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What does it mean to you as a christian if in anyway the official story of 9/11 is a lie?

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ORIGINAL: prophecyteacher

For those unfamiliar with the term a "False Flag Operation" is a U.S. government operation where an attack is made on a u.S. city, airport, military base etc.. and made to look like the attack came from other sources in order to get the public to "buy into" an attack on that group. Where it relavent here is the question that was first asked.

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What does it mean to you as a christian if in anyway the official story of 9/11 is a lie?

There are two options for 9/11. Either the events are true as outlined by the government or the event is a False flag Operation in which case the government has lied about everything. By considering that the government has lied you are acknowledging that the government is capable of an operation that will knowingly cost several thousand innocent American lives in order to enact a desired response. In this case the desired response included the passing of the Patriot Act. This is one of the worst laws in destroying our freedoms. So assuming that this is a false flag and the government has lied what does that mean to the Christian? It will depend on if you believe that we are living in the "last generation" before the return of Christ. If you believe this then the Bible states that the world will be controlled by a world dictator that recieves his authority to rule from 10 rulers that control the world. Each of the 10 have a section of the world that they rule over. In this we are talking about a socialist dictatorship for the regions. The U.S. was founded as a Constitutional Republic. A Constitutional Republic is diametrically opposed to dictatorship. For this reason the republic must disappear. Either it will disappear after the Rapture of the church or it will be destroyed and become a socialist country and become part of the North American Union with a single leader (dictator) in control. Remember a false flag is designed to get a proper response.

The U.S. is moving direcly into the socialist realm and the laws enacted along with the Executive Orders allow for the suspension of our laws and the arrest and detention of "terrorists" as defined by the government. The list of suspected terrorists include those who are Christian. So if the goverment has lied then:

Christians should be devoting more time to following Christ and time in the Word. It is this that will get us through the difficult times ahead.

I hope I tied my previous statement to the thread for you.

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ORIGINAL: cow451

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ORIGINAL: prophecyteacher

For those unfamiliar with the term a "False Flag Operation" is a U.S. government operation where an attack is made on a u.S. city, airport, military base etc.. and made to look like the attack came from other sources in order to get the public to "buy into" an attack on that group. Where it relavent here is the question that was first asked.

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What does it mean to you as a christian if in anyway the official story of 9/11 is a lie?

There are two options for 9/11. Either the events are true as outlined by the government or the event is a False flag Operation in which case the government has lied about everything. By considering that the government has lied you are acknowledging that the government is capable of an operation that will knowingly cost several thousand innocent American lives in order to enact a desired response. In this case the desired response included the passing of the Patriot Act. This is one of the worst laws in destroying our freedoms. So assuming that this is a false flag and the government has lied what does that mean to the Christian? It will depend on if you believe that we are living in the "last generation" before the return of Christ. If you believe this then the Bible states that the world will be controlled by a world dictator that recieves his authority to rule from 10 rulers that control the world. Each of the 10 have a section of the world that they rule over. In this we are talking about a socialist dictatorship for the regions. The U.S. was founded as a Constitutional Republic. A Constitutional Republic is diametrically opposed to dictatorship. For this reason the republic must disappear. Either it will disappear after the Rapture of the church or it will be destroyed and become a socialist country and become part of the North American Union with a single leader (dictator) in control. Remember a false flag is designed to get a proper response.

The U.S. is moving direcly into the socialist realm and the laws enacted along with the Executive Orders allow for the suspension of our laws and the arrest and detention of "terrorists" as defined by the government. The list of suspected terrorists include those who are Christian. So if the goverment has lied then:

Christians should be devoting more time to following Christ and time in the Word. It is this that will get us through the difficult times ahead.

I hope I tied my previous statement to the thread for you.

So, dispensationalist interpretation of the Bible prove that 9/11 was a conspiracy perpetrated by the government (or the Illuminati, Masons or other evil organization).

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ORIGINAL: prophecyteacher

Ever hear of the military term "False Flag"?

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FALSE COLOURS (or COLORS)
An ensign or other flag displayed by a vessel not entitled to it, and usually (but not invariably) employed by warships as a ruse de guerre (see also ‘colours 4)’ and ‘false flag 1)’ below).
Please note that this practice is considered perfectly acceptable providing the correct ensign is raised before the commencement of hostilities.


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FALSE FLAG (or ENSIGN)
1) The term which may be used for a flag or ensign that is made to resemble an established or historic design in order to deceive the observer, either as to origins of the flag itself, or the identity of those displaying it.
2) See ‘false colours’ above.

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ORIGINAL: cornergas

Yes, you are right. I get a good laugh at the dumbed down population, that accepts a ridiculous explanation for an event from their government, without any question..just accept it..kind of makes one feel warm and fuzzy if not sick to the stomach..Germany did the same before the second world war, and look where that got them!..Anyway it is good to keep your childhood dreams of believing in the tooth fairy and santa claus....I think!


Know the truth and it will set you free
Worship the Son of God-not the sun god
Remember the Sabbath to keep it Holy!

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ORIGINAL: cornergas

Yes, you are right. I get a good laugh at the dumbed down population, that accepts a ridiculous explanation for an event from their government, without any question..just accept it..kind of makes one feel warm and fuzzy if not sick to the stomach..Germany did the same before the second world war, and look where that got them!..Anyway it is good to keep your childhood dreams of believing in the tooth fairy and santa claus....I think!

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ORIGINAL: cow451

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ORIGINAL: cornergas

Yes, you are right. I get a good laugh at the dumbed down population, that accepts a ridiculous explanation for an event from their government, without any question..just accept it..kind of makes one feel warm and fuzzy if not sick to the stomach..Germany did the same before the second world war, and look where that got them!..Anyway it is good to keep your childhood dreams of believing in the tooth fairy and santa claus....I think!


Know the truth and it will set you free
Worship the Son of God-not the sun god
Remember the Sabbath to keep it Holy!

So what happened to the jet and passengers?

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ORIGINAL: cow451

So what happened to the jet and passengers?

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ORIGINAL: cornergas

We know the boeing 757 did not hit the Pentagon..so u tell me where it went? Ask the government for the answers, they are the ones covering this all up..

Know the truth and it will set you free
Remember the Sabbath to keep it Holy
God bless us all!

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ORIGINAL: Eutychus
I think it was Hal Lindsay who was overheard saying on his way to the bank to deposit a royalty check, "There might not be anything fishy going on at all, but that's no reason to stop making up perfectly good conspiracy theories."

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ORIGINAL: iluvatar

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ORIGINAL: cornergas
Why did the buildings collapse straight down? If the absurd theory of jet fuel weaking the structure, it would not be uniform..

It wasn't uniform.

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and would cause a sideways collapse, and not a complete collapse..

Why would the building fall sideways? Gravity was pulling it down, not sideways. The only reason an object tips over is because it's unbalanced AND because it's rigid. What makes you believe that a skyscraper is strong enough to remain rigid enough to tip over sideways and not crumble downward?

-Dan.

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ORIGINAL: keithyhuntington
this is starting to turn into the 9/11 thread part 2... but i'll weigh in anyway.

i am not a truther... but i dont defend the governemtn on this either... i just really don't have an oppinion. and until i hear for sure either way, i really just don't care. BUT i will say that from logically speaking... i've heard that the guys who said up building implodements have to have like a master's degree or something, and its a VERY specific scientific and algebraic approach to set up teh detinations to work out JUST SO so that the building falls in teh appropriately deemed manner...

it seems out of place for a building to NATURALLY fall in this exact way that guys have to go to school for 6 years and spent COUNTLESS hours rigging up otherwise.

as said i do not subscribe to any specific explanation, because its in the past. just saying, is all.

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ORIGINAL: keithyhuntington

BUT i will say that from logically speaking... i've heard that the guys who said up building implodements have to have like a master's degree or something, and its a VERY specific scientific and algebraic approach to set up teh detinations to work out JUST SO so that the building falls in teh appropriately deemed manner...
it seems out of place for a building to NATURALLY fall in this exact way that guys have to go to school for 6 years and spent COUNTLESS hours rigging up otherwise.

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The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) completed its performance study of the buildings in May 2002. It declared that the WTC design had been sound, and attributed the collapses wholly to extraordinary factors beyond the control of the builders. While calling for further study, FEMA suggested that the collapses were probably initiated by weakening of the floor joists by the fires that resulted from the aircraft impacts. According to FEMA's report, the floors detached from the main structure of the building and fell onto each other, initiating a progressive "pancake" collapse.

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Do you have any idea how utterly impossible it is to keep a group quiet about anything the magnitude of 9/11 if it were a hoax?

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ORIGINAL: agapeflight

http://www.ae911truth.org/

There is a 13 part video on Youtube by Richard Gage that lays it all out pretty clear.

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ORIGINAL: buckifn

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Do you have any idea how utterly impossible it is to keep a group quiet about anything the magnitude of 9/11 if it were a hoax?

If the price is right people will agree to anything.

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ORIGINAL: TrojanHusker

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ORIGINAL: keithyhuntington

BUT i will say that from logically speaking... i've heard that the guys who said up building implodements have to have like a master's degree or something, and its a VERY specific scientific and algebraic approach to set up teh detinations to work out JUST SO so that the building falls in teh appropriately deemed manner...
it seems out of place for a building to NATURALLY fall in this exact way that guys have to go to school for 6 years and spent COUNTLESS hours rigging up otherwise.

Try it yourself, no 6 years of study needed -
http://www.physicsgames.net/game/Demolition_City.html

Here's what the government said about the World Trade Center -

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The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) completed its performance study of the buildings in May 2002. It declared that the WTC design had been sound, and attributed the collapses wholly to extraordinary factors beyond the control of the builders. While calling for further study, FEMA suggested that the collapses were probably initiated by weakening of the floor joists by the fires that resulted from the aircraft impacts. According to FEMA's report, the floors detached from the main structure of the building and fell onto each other, initiating a progressive "pancake" collapse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center